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Message started by C-GARL on Jan 6th, 2017 at 4:23pm

Title: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Jan 6th, 2017 at 4:23pm
Good day everyone, another winter another project.
this year I am building A Nick Ziroli Turbinator-E jet. This is what it looks like after spending an afternoon at it. I will install RC Lander 70mm 3000kv 4S 10 Blade Dynamic Power EDF.
I will get back at it this weekend. more pictures will follow as it progress.  ;D
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Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by FLC astroflyer on Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:35pm
That should be sweet Alain.  Keep us up to date!

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by Newfie Bullet on Jan 6th, 2017 at 9:00pm
Don't forget the wing bolt!!!!!

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Jan 8th, 2017 at 4:46pm
Yes me Newfie friend, i got the wing bolts. 😆at least i didn't get drunk and order nother kit. 😅😅😅😅😅😉😊. Remember tnat onr?😅😅😅😆

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by Newfie Bullet on Jan 9th, 2017 at 11:19am
Lol...I can understand the last portion of your post. You need to use that québécois spell check!!! :)
It's not a Turbinator!!!

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by FLC astroflyer on Jan 9th, 2017 at 5:44pm
Well, without those wing bolts, it'll be terminated.  Lol.

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Feb 7th, 2017 at 2:49pm
a little more progress to the project. Next on the building block are the wings. ;D ;D :D :D
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Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by FLC astroflyer on Feb 8th, 2017 at 8:11am
Looking great Alain!

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:29am
now this thing start looking like a plane.
Canopy to be fitted soon.
next on the task is to fit the retracts and aileron servos before covering the top of the wing.  ;) :) :D ;D
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Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by FLC astroflyer on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:55am
You're right, it is looking like a plane.  A great plane!  How big is this Alain?  Hard to tell on a bench photo.

ooops, I just checled the first photo in this thread.  40 inches.  nice transportable size.

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by small_rc on Feb 18th, 2017 at 10:05am
I see the parts appear to be laser cut.  Was this a kit, or did you come to own a laser cutter?

Jim H

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Mar 4th, 2017 at 8:28am
It is a kit. Got it from Laser Design Services (LDS) http://store.laser-design-services.com/

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Mar 16th, 2017 at 6:36pm
More progressing the Turbinator-E. Got cockpit done and the pilot show show up soon (once i find one). Canopy was a long process to get it to fit properly but that is what sand paper and beer are for. it only took an hour to hour and voila, it fits. The tail section is almost finish and sheeting of the wing will be done once I install the wiring for the aileron servo and retract gear.
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Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by FLC astroflyer on Mar 16th, 2017 at 11:34pm
Great looking airplane Alain and a nice job your doing building it.  Have you seen Al  Coolen's big turbine version?

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Mar 24th, 2017 at 8:51am
Thanks Al, just having fun.
Yes, I saw Al Coolen's plane in Margaree last year. yellow and red. real nice plane.
More works has been done to the Turbinator-E. Had to find a pilot that would represent my father-in-law nicely. a bit of a comedian he is. He kept mentioning the giant Gemini would crash in no time as he was helping me building it. He felt bad after the crash in Margaree. So, for his 86 birthday, i decided to make him my test pilot.  ;) :D 8-)
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Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by FLC astroflyer on Mar 24th, 2017 at 11:46am
Nice photo of your father in law!   Good looking man!  lol  Love his sunglasses.  I think I met him once or twice at some carnival or other.  lol

Plane not too shabby either alain,   Nice job!

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Mar 24th, 2017 at 1:27pm
LMAO yes he is not a bad fellow. always on a party somewhere. LOL
plane not finish just yet. got to figure out the marking on it. i may put in some Canadian Air force marking, f... the royal s...stuff.  ;)

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on May 26th, 2017 at 4:46pm
OKI, plane all done, still not marking but that should come after the maiden flight. Took it to the street in from of the house for taxi trials and all looks good. Sound great with the 10 blades fan, it produces 3.75 lbs static trust (so the OEM says). Got to buy a scale to find out how heavy it is. stay tuned for the next post.  :D :D :D :D :D :D :o 8-) :P

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by Newfie Bullet on May 26th, 2017 at 9:25pm
Hey Dude,
did you check the wheel nuts,,, ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on May 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm
Newfie Bullet kind of a man  ;), Wheel nuts and wing bolts all good. ;D unlike you, I only buy one kit, even  when I drink. ::) ::) ::) 8-) :o

here is what I have in the belly of that plane ;D :D

Motor is RC Lander 70mm 3000kv 4S 10 Blade Dynamic Power EDF,
Max RPM: 48,000 rpm
◾Application: 1,300 watts (Max)
◾Application: 1,200 watts (Continous)
◾Kv Rating: 3000
◾Battery: 4s 14.8V
◾Static Thrust: Up to 1.7kg/ 3.75 lb. (Estimated)

phoenix 100 Amps ESC,
DS929HV servos (X4),
AR636 6-Channel AS3X® Sport Receiver,
4S 4000 mah battery
10 - 15 Size Tricycle Electric Retracts  (EFLG110)

flying weight: 3.5 lbs

Maiden flight to be on Friday morning. cross you fingers.  ;)


Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by FLC astroflyer on May 31st, 2017 at 6:58pm
Excellent Alain.  Our guys will all meet at our field friday night and pray to the wind gods.  lol

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by Newfie Bullet on Jul 4th, 2017 at 9:59pm
Alain....I found your wing bolts in Margaree ;D ;D :D ;D
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Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by FLC astroflyer on Jul 6th, 2017 at 6:30am
OMG!  lol

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by CQ on Jul 6th, 2017 at 9:04am
BTW Alain, how did the maiden go? Did it fly good? Any pictures?

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Jul 7th, 2017 at 10:42am
Al, wind god prayer was great, 10KM wind straight down the runway too. you can tell the newfie guy to get off his knees.  unless he is waiting to kiss someone's ass. LOL ;D ;D

Newfie dude, thank you for the wing bolts, now you can put them on you plane and stop being on the side line in Margeree.  ::) :P ;)

CQ, the plane was flying way better than I imagined. sound rough at full throttle due to the inside construction. it is a basic construction and the internal air flow to the EDF is not that great. something I plan to improve in my next built. the 11 blade fan sounded great once I reduced to 50% throttle. landing was great and glides well too. second flight was even better but on the third flight I was playing with the AS3X and for some reason it was not a happy ending.
something funny happen at the field that day. beautiful sunny day but the magnetic field swiftly shifted  causing a great disturbance in the G force and made the ground to raise about 12 feet in the air and collided with the plane. another effect of the magnetic  field variation cause EMI and remove too much throttle in the left stick of the transmitter while performing a thigh left turn for final approach to align with the runway for landing. wing are in great condition, aluminum wing tube bend and a nose job is required. Wing bolts were still on the plane.  :o ;) :)
I used 1.75" foam wheel and on grass field they did not last too long. I will keep the same size but soon be looking for better wheels.
One of the club member has a large scanner and a laser cutter. time for me to pay him a visit.

Chris, if you are interested in scratch building a EDF, I have a BAE 70mm plane. I will ask my friend to scan and cut the parts. let me know if you want a copy/kit. $ TBD.
:) :) :) :) 8-)

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by Newfie Bullet on Jul 7th, 2017 at 9:51pm
Alain...what the hell...you should of stuck to taxiing around the neighbourhood... you ecrou papillon..lol :D :D :D

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by CQ on Jul 8th, 2017 at 5:22pm
Too bad about the third flight.
Thanks anyway, but I prefer to buy them already built. It's harder for me to screw them up that way.

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Jul 10th, 2017 at 3:03pm
that is why I build from a plan or I make sure I have the plan so I can fix any miss landing.

let me know if you change your mind in building one.
Nice A-10, you must love flying it.

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Aug 9th, 2017 at 10:32am
the plane is all fixed up and will be flying again as soon as I receive the aluminium wing tubing.
  :) ;) 8-)

Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Aug 21st, 2017 at 1:10pm
Got to the field flying between rain days. re-maiden the Turbinator 70mm and wow. Did not have to adjust any thing at all. all trims were good. AS3X working great and behave very well once again in 10-15 km wind. Four flights and still in one piece.  ;)
No more turning on a dime for sure. :)

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Title: Re: Winter 2017 Project
Post by C-GARL on Jun 11th, 2019 at 1:35pm
:'( Well, this was a great plane to fly. unfortunately, one wheel did not come down as the piano wire was bent and the wheel was stocked in the wheel base. I, not as good as Jon for landing on one wheel. I did get 3 point landing but wing tip does not normally count as a good landing. this cause a nice flipping, turning, jumping and parts flying again condition.
good news is all servos, esc EDF and whatnot are still in good condition. this nice little plane will be built again and will fly better. I will make sure to put in a better landing gear with oleo struts this time. ;)

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